The infinite stars. Photo by Greg Rakozy
On a South Pacific Island. Sound of waves surging and breaking
Aedgar's voice is written like this.
Andrew's voice is written like this
I can sense I have been here before.
What can I do for you, my dear?
I am Andrew. You spoke with my daughter here some months ago.
Andrew. Pleasure to meet you.
Pleasure to meet you, especially on a Sunday.
We don’t care much about these kinds of things.
Oh, well I do. Not only for it’s religious reasons. I think it’s important because it’s a day of reflection.
Every day is an important day.
I don’t deny that.
Aedgar, do you know yesterday a threepenny — an Australian threepenny piece dated 1921, I think it is. It was found at the far end of the island at a site called An'isi. I’d be very interested to know if you can tell any of the history of that coin.
All right. We’ll have a look.
Middle-aged man on a boat looking for women to take back home. Had to hide on this place because the local men didn’t like them to take their girls away. Six men.
Six men on a boat tried to steal women from here to take back home.
Well, it did go on. But I thought that —
Asian. European and Asian.
Aedgar, do you know when?
We are not good at time, because time doesn’t exist where we are. But you would call it the beginning of last century.
Yeah, twentieth century. So the site where the coin —
But, it doesn’t match the numbers on that coin. It was later. About ten years, you would call it.
Aedgar, this site where that coin was found is a place the locals call An'isi.
Which is where, in the old days, the chief would go and sit. I think, to meditate. Is that true?
Hmm. You might call it meditation. I would call it having a conversation with Spirit.
Yep. That makes sense. Christianity hadn’t arrived then, so —
Looking for guidance of spirits. It was a very good position to catch them.
So that is a spiritual spot.
Would there be a problem —
It’s got a very strong vibration.
Would there be a problem if I decided I wanted to live there, build something to live there, respecting the area?
You would be capable of doing so. Many others would not be capable. It takes strength to go there. You got very strong spirit, are you aware of that?
Um, I’ve got very strong opinions. I’m not sure if that is spiritually driven. I am certainly interested in the spiritual realm.
It’s very strong spirit you’ve got. You have very strong connections. You should feel free to use them. You tend to shy away from them.
I think that’s probably true. I don’t know about latent spiritual potential.
I don’t know about being shy.
You could do amazing things, teaching the rest of the world. It is an important thing to do. You got the knowledge and the strength in your spirit to do so. You came here to teach. Do you remember that you came back to teach?
I can’t really remember coming here to teach. I think I came here to share. I mean teachers — I don’t see myself as being a teacher. I would rather see myself as being a sharer. I just see a teacher as too formal, too tight, too dogmatic. I’m sure I’m all of those things anyway [Laughs].
We are talking about teaching in the bigger picture. It’s not what you call a profession of being a teacher. We think that’s rubbish, as you would say.
You are able to teach people and the world about important things in life — how to distinguish the important things from the rubbish. You can see it. It’s very clear to you. Others don’t see it. You just can see it and it feels natural to you. And you think everybody sees it, which is not true.
Okay. Can we move away from my personal side of things?
I would like to know if what has been started here with the whales will continue. Can you foresee that in the next decade, ten years, that I hope I am still here, that there will be any radical movements that could be detrimental to trying to share the whales here?
There will be a lot of competition.
We already have that.
It’s getting fierce. Because there are people who don’t want to share the whales. They see it as a measurement, as a tool to get the paper with the numbers on it. They don’t care about the whales. That’s why you are different. You are trying to teach, to give people experiences that put them in a different position within their own worldview. These others are looking for papers with numbers on it. They will get fierce and they try to compete really hard.
The whales are very generous here and they are happy to be shared, so to say.
I believe so.
And you will realise at some stage that the whales can feel the intention of the people on these boats.
You will realise that you get to see much more of them, than they do.
Changing the subject, once again.
When I was a young man I lived in Bangkok.
I went to a Buddhist monk to have my fortune read. I had to find out my birthdate to within an hour. I had no idea and had to contact my mother and get that information and then go back to see this Buddhist monk. He had books that looked like logarithm tables and did a chart for me. He told me — it was all done through an interpreter — that because his charts, his information was based in Thailand and I was born in England, that there was a differential between the two.
He told me that if what he said was correct, that I should come back at a later date and I would get a full reading.
He told me (and I had no intention of it at the time when I visited him) that I would leave Bangkok within six months; I would be married within another 12 months and I’d have two daughters. And all those things materialised. And I’ve often wondered — I don’t know if I’d ever find that monk again, I’d have to find the boy who worked with me — I’ve always been interested to know. He told me I’d live to 83. Which means I’ve got another 14 years to box on, which is pretty good.
Can people actually predict the end?
They can. It’s about what you came back for, what you came to do, that you're trying to accomplish. You need to finish some of your tasks.
Some figure out that they can’t finish their tasks. They realise that they have taken the wrong path and there is no way to change it. So it’s much easier for them to leave and come back.
Some choose an abrupt end. Some humans live very fast lives — you would call it at a high pace — so that’s the kind of end they choose. Abrupt, which is another fast learning experience. Some of you would call it a bad experience.
But normally you would stay awhile to try to finish some of your tasks. You might have had some detours at some stage, so you have to stay around longer. Once you’re finished your tasks, it’s up to you if you want to stay around and have some more experiences that can carry over to the next life.
So, I’ve been here previously. This is like a stepping stone.
It just continues. You come back to teach, to get experience. It’s all about about gaining knowledge and growing energy. Everybody tries to do it. Some don’t succeed. If everybody raises what they call their consciousness, to grow energy and wisdom, the whole planet can profit from it, will get value out of it.