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Aedgar's voice is written like this

Shada's voice is written this way


It’s interesting what you say about time. I was wondering whether what we call a horoscope is affecting us, like any kind of constellation of the stars at the time we are born? Or is it a really wrong concept?

People have used that zodiac or star signs, (or whatever you call it), for a long time. It does affect one’s spirit, in this sense: there is all this movement and energy and motion. It’s the nature of the whole Universe — everything moves. Everything’s got consciousness and is alive. It’s a matter of — hmm — the energy helps you at the time when you are born to get to the place where you are meant to be.

You have to find your path. You make a decision before you come. So you come at a time when all the energy surrounding you is right to get you to the place you need to be. I’m not only talking about this planet because it is all so much bigger than you think.

"So you come at a time when all the energy surrounding you is right to get you to the place you need to be." Pic by James Studarus

"So you come at a time when all the energy surrounding you is right to get you to the place you need to be." Pic by James Studarus

So it helps you to get to that place.

But if you are born in that sign, you know, it changes too. The only constant thing that you have is change. Everything moves, everything is in motion.

Say you’re born in the ‘star’ sign that happened at that moment — the particular constellation of stars and all that. Then, it changes.

So, you give a name to a constellation that was showing at the time you were born. It repeats in a similar way, but never in the same way again.

Everything changes. The speed of the rotation of planets changes as well. The whole thing moves; not in one direction. [He describes a circling, moving ball with the hands].

So, once you reach an adult life, your star sign would be different to the one that you were born in.

Astronomical Clock (including zodiac) in Prague. Photo by Maros M r a z

Astronomical Clock (including zodiac) in Prague. Photo by Maros M r a z

Because you take the rotation of the Earth itself and its rotation around the Sun in this system and the stars -- but the speed of the rotation changes. That’s another factor. And, as I said, it changes in more than one direction.

The only way that you would understand right now is to see it all like a grid or a huge cloud. There is no end to it. You’re just a tiny, tiny part in that. If you would look at it from a different point in this ‘Universe’ — it’s more than one anyway, there is no end — you would look from a point somewhere and it’s such a tiny speck you live on, you would not even see it with the eyes you have right now.

Do you understand?

Yes.

So you were born in this sign. Some people say, “These people have different attributes, different ways of acting." It’s not like that.

It just helped them, this kind of energy, to get them, at that moment, to the place they have chosen and where they are supposed to be, to have the closest possibility of finding their path. That is sometimes quite difficult, given all the distractions here. It has nothing to do with what you call a star sign. Someone came up with these ideas.

Well, it’s wishful thinking of humans. Humans at this time, in this area, like to categorise, which is not what one should do. You don’t need to be put in a drawer because, “Oh, you were born this time of the year, in this specific year. So you get in this drawer because that’s how you act. That’s how you’re made." It’s not true. I’m sorry to tell you.

You don’t need to be put in a drawer because you were born this time of the year. "So you get in this drawer because that’s how you act. That’s how you’re made." Photo by Rosan Harmens

You don’t need to be put in a drawer because you were born this time of the year. "So you get in this drawer because that’s how you act. That’s how you’re made." Photo by Rosan Harmens

But there are some cute stories around. I agree.

And they are used. If you want to see something positive in someone, you’re supposed to say, “Oh, that’s all the good attributes of that person." If you dislike a person, as well, you can say, “Of course, these are the attributes and he’s such a clear example of that one." Or, she.

[Shada laughs]

It’s more like an entertainment. Do you understand?

Yes, Aedgar.

I mean, there are some individuals out there, they make it a profession, to talk about this. It’s like people talking about faerie tales. And actually, they have these stories: Well, this is how it looks right now, for you. And then the next day they change it around for the other star sign. And they kind of say, “Well, that’s a good part. Hmm, that one had a very good part yesterday. You know, he could handle a bit of bad news." That’s how they change it around.

[Shada chuckles]

I’m not saying that all of them use that system. A lot of them do.
They’re good storytellers.

Parrot Horoscope. Photograph by Justin Vijesh

Parrot Horoscope. Photograph by Justin Vijesh

Some of them can [sigh] build up a spiritual connection to someone who asks them. And some of them can see. They use kind of a system with gradients and circles and things, together with time, of course — where they can tell you, “Oh, you were born on that day. This is how your life is."

They can read some of the energy. It’s not about the mathematics behind it. It’s not.

They can read some of the energy and they know, with a knowledge that comes from deep within, that they can’t explain. So they need to put numbers and lines and circles and all these things out there. Because there is no other way for them to explain it to someone, who has no idea, that they have this connection and they know. “This person came into this place and should go along this path. But didn’t work out so well.” Or the person is doing well.

The problem is, the ones that do quite well don’t ask for advice, because they know themselves they’re on their path. Some of them need a little bit of help to be pushed in the right direction. But the ones that truly know and they are happy with what they do and it feels right what they do, they won’t ask for advice.

Do you understand?

Yes, that’s right.

Good.

Yeah, interesting questions. We’ve heard some of them before. It seems to be a common theme in these so-called times.

Is there anything else, my dear?

[Clears her throat] I’ve read in some of your teachings that —

I’m not a teacher.

I give advice. I try to support people to gain knowledge so they can grow their energy.

‘Teacher’, in your society, is a bit of a misused word. Should be an advisor.

Sorry for interrupting, my dear.

No problem. You’ve said that anger is also a means to grow energy.

Indeed.

Does it mean that every emotion grows energy?

Yes. And, as you would know, the word growth means —

Some people do a science exercise where they talk about backward or negative growth. It’s not like that.

Growing is growing. If something grows, it can’t grow in the negative.

So, if it is — hmm — if it is a really true feeling: anger, sadness — hmm, boredom is not really a feeling — but happiness, even going as far as, you might call it, enlightenment; when you gain some really important insights, you grow energy.

Anger can give you a quick learning experience. Picture by Skeeze.

Anger can give you a quick learning experience. Picture by Skeeze.

If you are angry because someone else is angry and you want to join this person in the anger, it’s very unlikely that it grows your energy.

If it is your own true feeling, it grows energy. That’s why we say that sometimes if you have a bad experience, this can grow energy quite quickly, much faster. It goes like this [claps hands softly together] and the energy goes up. Because you learned very quickly.

It’s like a child putting their hand in the fire. It’s painful. It works every single time and it grows energy, because it grows the knowledge, “If I do it again, it will hurt again."

But, if you join in, you know, say this person is angry about a general thing — politics is a favourite at the moment, we think.

You know, they weren’t bothered before. They did not care. But one of their friends gets really angry about it. They feel close to their friend, so they think, “Oh, maybe we should get angry, too, to give our dear friend some support." The friend that joins out of sympathy doesn’t grow their own energy. This person won’t grow their own energy because they don’t have their own insights. That’s why large groups of people doing stupid things don’t go anywhere.

Say, one guy is angry with the whole area over there. He makes other people go and fight for him. It makes, gains, no knowledge, from the whole idea. Because he’s not doing it himself, or she. And the others join to get, maybe, food. Maybe paper with numbers on it.

But it’s not their thought. It’s not their path.

If you really grow energy and you’re on you’re path, that’s the easiest way. You gain more knowledge if you are on your path as an individual.

"You gain more knowledge if you are on your path as an individual." Photo by Kalen Emsley

"You gain more knowledge if you are on your path as an individual." Photo by Kalen Emsley

If you have a lot of people joining each other and it’s not their idea, they won’t get the result they want.

It’s a bit of a difficult concept, we know.

But sending large groups to, for example, a war, is not working. Because there’s no insight grown inside these people that, “This is wrong. I have to do something against it." If they do have a true insight and they go and say, “We have to do something about it,” it will work because they are on their path. They’re meant to do this. They grow energy.

Sometimes they get quick knowledge out of it, too. But, it’s their path.

If someone tells some poor souls, “This is what you’re going to do because we don’t like what the ones are doing over there, so you have to fight for my ideas”, it won’t work. They just have to come back and do it again in the next life because they don’t grow much energy by supporting someone else's thought (that they shouldn’t have been involved with in the first place).

So, you force people to join an army, for example. You take them off their path. You think they support you on your path, but they can’t because it’s not theirs.

Do you understand?

Yes.

It’s always a bit difficult to explain. We can see a lot of these things are going on, on this planet. It has always been that way.

But some ideas did spread a bit slower in other times.

So that either that bad idea, once it got somewhere else, was really big — because no one knew where and how it originated. Or, it went the other direction and from a strong, kind of, stream — a strong powerful flow — just started trickling a bit at the other end. That’s why you should stay away from extremes, the low ones and the high ones; the strong ones and the weak ones. Because they very likely originated from a completely wrong idea, far away.

Now, they use different systems of information. Some tiny stupid idea from this end of the world goes to the other end of the world, getting picked up. In the meantime, the one that sent out this vibe has changed their mind.

So, down there it’s not an issue any more because they’ve changed their minds already. “What do I care, what I said yesterday?”

But it turned into something really big on the other side of the planet. They didn’t get the information that that one changed their mind already. Do you understand?

Yes.

Maybe it went a bit too far. Maybe that was more than you were asking.

No, that’s wonderful. Good explanation, Aedgar.

Thank you.
Is there anything else you might wanna know?

Of course!

I thought so. I could sense that.

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