‘They need to change the way they think. Forcing someone into this has never worked.’
‘They have things in their daily lives that could explain more to them than what the priest does on a Sunday. They just can’t see it.’
‘There is a big difference between ‘holy’ and sacred. The Earth is sacred, not holy… We worked with the support of Nature. And we respected Nature for giving us medicines.’
"Your Universe is not the only Universe. Just because you can’t find a way to see it, to measure it, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
You have something you could call a Universe that is quite small, quite close. There are actually quite a few that could fit into a human hand. So much smaller, so much more powerful."
A conversation about power, greed and religion, and how we must learn from what we do each day.
On an island being drowned by rising sea levels, Bartgrinn looks into the energy of the place, discusses the way that distraction can help a person, the nature of time, how past lives can influence the current life and, on a larger scale, how greed has come to dominate the human experience in our epoch.
Insight into ancient ways -- living in the hills, Bartgrinn was an itinerant healer, warmly welcomed wherever he arrived. One of Nel's first conversations with this powerful spirit.