‘There is a big difference between ‘holy’ and sacred. The Earth is sacred, not holy… We worked with the support of Nature. And we respected Nature for giving us medicines.’
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‘At some point they don’t come back, because the universe can’t use them. They’re useless, because they don’t grow energy.’
On an island being drowned by rising sea levels, Bartgrinn looks into the energy of the place, discusses the way that distraction can help a person, the nature of time, how past lives can influence the current life and, on a larger scale, how greed has come to dominate the human experience in our epoch.
Insight into ancient ways -- living in the hills, Bartgrinn was an itinerant healer, warmly welcomed wherever he arrived. One of Nel's first conversations with this powerful spirit.