Photo of Mining Town and nearby Mine, by Tor Lindstrand, Australian Vernacular


Aedgar's voice is written this way

Nerida's voice is written like this.



Hello. Welcome.

Different energy here. As to …

Yes. We’re still in the desert.

Which desert?

One of the great deserts of Australia.

There is some kind of beautiful energy here but in general, it's very disturbed.

Yes, it’s an important mining town. The only reason the town exists really is to deplete the earth.

Mmm. It’s not all lost -- but very, very disturbed.


There are still some glimpses of beautiful energy though. A rich place. Rich in culture... previously.

Really? Rich in culture?

Indeed. People came here to learn. It was a good place to learn. Learning means growing energy.


Was it a dry place even then?

Not entirely. It had rivers. You might call them now ‘creeks’. There was an abundance of life. Lakes as well. Pools and rocks that stayed there all these years. Some of these rivers, they grew or diminished with the seasons. They never completely disappeared for long.

Was that the time of the giant animals?

Before that. This place is very old. Spiritually quite important. A shame they are scratching the surface and poking around in these holes.

Yes. Desecration would be the word I’d choose.

Iron Ore Mine, Formerly a Mountain. Photo by  Graham Churchard .

Iron Ore Mine, Formerly a Mountain. Photo by Graham Churchard.

Yeah, that would be a good choice.

It’s still very beautiful.

It won’t last for long. Poking holes I mean.

Yes? Good.

They will have a bad future.

Here at this place?

A future generation will ask the present beneficiaries to put it back in its original state.


It will bankrupt them. Even though you couldn’t put it back into the original state -- they will want to try to get as close as possible. It’s about one, probably more like two, generations from now.

Well, that’s quite soon all things considered. I’m grateful to hear that.

It hasn’t been going on for that long anyway.

Yes. But their greed has driven them to make great damage here and they continue to do that.

They do. Future generations will change their attitude to it. They will have more insight. They will think more spiritually.

It warms my heart to hear so.

It’s these streaks of beautiful energy that are left here that will lead to it in years.

Streaks of mineral beauty in Death Valley, USA. Photo by  Anchor Lee .

Streaks of mineral beauty in Death Valley, USA. Photo by Anchor Lee.

And the wealth they are taking out won’t last.

That’s good.

They are trying to move, to expand their actions and I’m quite certain they will. Once they’ve finished extending it, people won’t ask for it any more.

And then other people will come and ask them to take it all down, remove it — to minimise the scars on the surface of the planet. There will still be all these things missing inside though. This will always be an issue.

It won’t help trying to put scrap metal back in there. They’ll try to dump all their machinery here. Like, 'We took it out, we transformed it, we put it back'. This is not how it works. It’s like what they do out in the universe -- always leaving rubbish behind. They’d better work on that quick.

Photo by  Andrew Branch .

Photo by Andrew Branch.

The original stone that they take out is much more complex than what they produce.

They have no understanding of it. They are interested in one thing. There’s a demand that sustains their interest in these things. Once the demand diminishes there will be interest in other things. And then they will try to move on. But future generations will tell them they can’t.

It’s a beautiful stone, the stone they mine out of the earth here. Rich colours; it sparkles. I guess it has a beautiful energy when it’s not torn out of the earth.

Beautiful things tend to suffer. It creates an interest in itself. Other people want to have it. They want to take you with them -- it works that way with lots of beautiful things. People desire it. They will go a long way to get it.

Indeed. The big hole in the earth is the evidence of what humans will be, what they will do, for something they want.

As I’ve told you before, observe it, learn from it, grow your energy by learning. You might need it at some point.

[Laughing] The education or the energy or both?

It’s an educational experience. Use it wisely. It might be beneficial at some point.

Yes,  perhaps.

It’s a matter of being able to say, 'I have seen it for myself. I am not talking about things I read in papers that other people put out. I have seen it. I talked to people that had direct experiences with it.'

Learning from hard experience. Photo by  Sascha Milk .

Learning from hard experience. Photo by Sascha Milk.

These are the important things. Learning grows energy. Growing knowledge grows energy. But as they say, as well, knowledge is power. It’s more power than most of these people understand.

Most of the people in power do have a very low level of knowledge. It’s always fascinating to think about how they got there with their low level of intelligence. I can’t say that often enough.

[Laughing] Yes. I agree.

You should because I am right. I too have acquired some knowledge over the, what you call, time.

I call it a flood of experience rather than 'time'.

I’ve been reading about physics, writings about time, and enjoying them.

Good. It’s a path to some understanding. Even if it’s a slightly different approach, we all do share the same knowledge at some point. We just use different aspects of it.

Because of your different floods of experience?

Yes, indeed. We all come from different experiences. We all come from a wealth of experience, which turns into knowledge if it’s used wisely.

I’m learning a lot from people here, the people who work in the mines.
They have to work very hard, not by historic standards, but by contemporary standards in this part of the world. They work, young people, long hours until their bodies start to break. And then the employers find more of them.

They will create the generations that are going to fight it.

Yes. These people will.

They won’t have a long delightful life. It’s significantly shortened by over-working and using this physical body in a wrong way. Their children will suffer because the older ones, like parents, or grandparents, if they get to know them at all, won't be around that long. And instead of the life expectancy getting longer in some parts, it will be significantly shorter in these people -- which is an experience their children will learn from.

A lot of them will actually not be able to have children. There are some things in the dust that will cause infertility in males and females.

You don’t need to be worried about it for now, anyway.


But it’s the young people.

Yes and they are such robust young people that come here with enthusiasm for making money and having a good life.

Well, they dream about making lots of paper with numbers on it in a short period of time but, as you say here, it comes at a price. It will be their physicality that’s damaged. Some also suffer a kind of damage of the thoughts. I wouldn’t go as far to call it mental damage in general. It’s the thoughts they have, that they are going to develop.

You mean the anger about realising what’s happened to their lives and bitterness?

They will realise it at some stage. They don’t have enough time in between work now.

[Sadly] Yes.